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03 March 2007

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glenn

Paul- What can I say, except thanks for being honest. In doing so you hold out hope for everyone with an addictive personality, which I believe, is everyone. It is only the addictions that change from person to person. It reminds me o the writings of Brenann Manning and Michael Yaconelli.

I wonder how we would be affected if we grasped the something of the value that we have in God's eyes and something of the unique potential He has placed within us.

Paul

Thanks glenn. I've found being honest about my inner space and opening that up to God and God's community the only thing that has helped me change/grow and recover more of my humanity - it has been costly [not least in on-going humility] but it has also been so life changing and liberating - my best hope and my only real proof of God is my experiences as to how he continues to help me unravel my addictions and change me from a net taker to a net giver.

It is an interesting reflection point, realising God's value in us is in part for me a reflection of my changing theology - moving away from me as a worthless sinner to me as a spiritual being who has been created good but can choose between the best by following the way of Jesus or the fluctuating good of following me. Which has not always been that successful/happy bringing...

What do you think the impact would be?

glenn

What if we believed what God believes about us?

We would be highly motivated to serve Him in the way he created us to do so.

Words like freedom, creativity, dedication, and holiness (both positive and negative) come to mind.

Molly

Wow, this is really really gut-wrenchingly good.
Thanks, Paul.

Rupert

Paul - just got round to reading this post (its length put me off a quick glance!). Thanks for your honesty and transparency. It is inspiring and a model. I am sure it will help many to open up to thier hidden stuff, and bring into the light. Really good stuff.

Paul

Thanks Glenn, yes i think liberation would be inspiring and motivating, my motivation has increased anywho :).

Just one Q - what did you mean by +ive and -ive holiness?

Paul

Thanks Molls, it was a bit of a post from the guts rather than from the mind :)

Paul

Thanks Rupert - yes i guess it was a bit on the long side, i was gonna split it into 3 posts but then got lazy - having written it all i just wanted to hit post :)

I hope it does help people - in a strange way i've found that opening up my inner space has helped me but it has also helped other people to open up theirs - i guess someone has to make the first move and having been on the receiving end of someone being couragiously honest with me and inspiring my own courage to be honest, i hope i can do the same for others.

I think after that the hardest thang is to keep being open, keep being honest and resisting the temptation to say heh look i'm all fixed!

glenn

Paul- I identify negative holiness with what usually comes to mind, thoughts, words, behavior, and habits to turn from. Some call it sin management. I think that it has built-in problems, though the motivation is great. Simply put, the law calls attention to the sin.

By positive holiness, I am referring to new thoughts, words, behavior, and habits that replace the old. I think that it starts by accepting the place of forgiveness and privilege that one has who has faith in Christ. Then, it moves us out of our comfort zones into the radically inclusive love and potentially controversial expressions of that love that Christ modeled. It has a way of diverting our attention from addictive sin because our hearts and minds are captivated with something new and exciting.

Paul

Thanks Glenn, that is very helpful... In my own experience i am often very aware that i have in my life positive blessings and negative ones - that i give but I take etc. The light/dark within me can end up with me just focussing on the dark rather than on the light which i think you are saying is unhelpful.

I find that a tension between knowing who i am and practices that open up the dark areas of me to the light of Jesus but also at the same time let the light out of me into the people and places i inhabit.

Anyone have any similar experiences? Anything you do as a result?

glenn

I think that there can be healthy balance between reflection and activism.

A problem with most churches is that they are not inspiring. It is not too inspiring to me to keep the machinery of the local church going, but it is very inspiring to be tackling a huge problem, like homelessness, for example, if even in only a small hands-on way.

Beauty can also capture our hearts. That's why it is good to take in great art and spend time in nature.

Relationships keep us engaged and externally focused.

It is all part of God's goodness, his kingdom, and his purposes for us.

I, personally, have bent toward reflection, so I have to try to find ways to keep these things in my life.

Paul

thanks glenn, reminds me again that we are on both a journey inward and a jourmney outward...

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